Episode 74

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21st Apr 2025

Which 5 Countries Have Waited the Longest to Win Eurovision Again?

SPOILER ALERT: The UK is not number one.

In this episode, Steven destroys the long held belief that the United Kingdom has been rather hard done by in recent years. In fact, their long wait to reclaim Eurovision glory once more is shared by several other countries.

So who are the top five?

How does the UK compare?

And what the heck does this all mean?

Listen now, follow the podcast, and find out!

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Mentioned in this episode:

Clodagh Rogers - ‘Jack in the Box’ (United Kingdom, 1971): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv-_fGqevns 

Katrina and the Waves - ‘Love Shine A Light’ (United Kingdom, 1997): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwLBCKA5-ls 

Imaani - ‘Where Are You?’ (United Kingdom, 1998): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D7fTr2H_X8

Jessica Garlick - ‘Come Back’ (United Kingdom, 2003): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwLBCKA5-ls

Jade Ewen - ‘It’s My Time’ (United Kingdom, 2009): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GwOojK3VRU

Sam Ryder - ‘Space Man’ (United Kingdom, 2022): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ0hqX_92zI

Remember Monday - ‘What The Hell Just Happened?’ (United Kingdom, 2025): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hu6R3ZnOdY 

Sandra Kim - ‘J’aime la vie’ (Belgium, 1986): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT3c41gi3B4

Urban Trad - ‘Sanomi’ (Belgium, 2003): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAakKDY2dWQ

Sertab Erener - ‘Everyway That I Can’ (Türkiye, 2003): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0_QrKnqd5E

Loïc Nottet - ‘Rhythm Inside’ (Belgium, 2015): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G48p8eNhnd8

Blanche - ‘City Lights’ (Belgium, 2017): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxsCmChDYwA

Laura Tesoro - ‘What’s the Pressure’ (Belgium, 2016): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDBjhAGaeWg

Gustaph - ‘Because of You’ (Belgium, 2023): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1xD14IMKtg

Mustii - ‘Before the Party’s Over’ (Belgium, 2024): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIemQwCaM4

Corinne Hermès - ‘Si la vie est cadeau’ (Luxembourg, 1983): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpP0KtpnQbQ

Sherisse Laurence - ‘L’Amour de ma vie’ (Luxembourg, 1986): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_4Jpemcr0U

Tali - ‘Fighter’ (Luxembourg, 2024): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCWH3Nq5y9A

Laura Thorn - ‘La poupée monte le son’ (Luxembourg, 2025): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVHu_KwHiKY

Marie Myriam - ‘L’Oiseau et l’Enfant’ (France, 1977): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQG8dtWClc8

Joëlle Ursull - ‘White And Black Blues’ (France, 1990): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPqSSLcefCs

Amina - ‘C’est le dernier qui a parlé qui a raison’ (France, 1991): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qom6NzhYhnI

Carola - ‘Fångad av en stormvind’ (Sweden, 1991): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ml6pJqc_bw

Twin Twin - ‘Moustache’ (France, 2014): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjkqciwP034

Amir - ‘J’ai cherché’ (France, 2016): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aLPsiyavcU

Barbara Pravi - ‘Voilà’ (France, 2021): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unj9WbeLzRU

Slimane - ‘Mon amour’ (France, 2024): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XyLecY2JyE

Louane - ‘maman’ (France, 2025): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj2DTSLcNnI

Salomé - ‘Vivo cantando’ (Spain, 1969): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POj0U2W6MnE

Massiel - ‘La la la’ (Spain, 1968): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhPAZOwEY0I

Anabel Conde - ‘Vuelve conmigo’ (Spain, 1995): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffXPpm0XDsM

Chanel - ‘SloMo’ (Spain, 2022): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSQYTt4xg3I

Ruth Lorenzo - ‘Dancing In The Rain’ (Spain, 2014): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OtuM3Zvkeo

Melody - ‘Esa Diva’ (Spain, 2025): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OtuM3Zvkeo

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In this week's episode.

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Long time ago, was it?

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I take a look at the countries who have been waiting the longest to notch up another win at Eurovision and whether they're in with a chance of lifting the trophy again anytime soon.

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I'm Stephen Perkins and this is Douce Poire.

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Hello London, we are ready for your vote.

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It is Monday 21st April.

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Happy Easter Monday to all of you.

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And I'm back with another of our Deep Dive episodes.

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But before we get underway with this week's main event, let's lets take a quick look at the latest headlines.

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ited Kingdom at Eurovision in:

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nished in fourth place in the:

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Her son Sam Sorby announced her death on social media, saying that she had been battling illness for the last three years.

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This week also saw the passing of Colin berry, a former BBC Radio 2 presenter who was an inherent part of UK Eurovision.

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n delivering our results from:

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Only missing two contests in his incredible 25 year run, he was 79 years old.

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And our thoughts here at Duz Bois go out to the family and friends of both Clodagh and Colin.

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Elsewhere, there's more news from Switzerland as to what this year's contest will look like.

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As last year's winner, Nemo has been announced as a guest performer.

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It hasn't been revealed yet which of the shows they will be performing in, but they will be performing a new song.

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This follows a previous announcement that one of the shows will also feature past Swiss Eurovision entrants Paola, Peter, Su and Marc, Luca, Henny and Jean's Thiers performing a medley in celebration of Switzerland's Eurovision heritage.

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In addition, Swiss broadcaster SRGSSR has confirmed that each of this year's three shows will have a theme.

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Semi Final one will be where it all began.

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Looking back to the birth of Eurovision in Switzerland, Semi Final 2 will be Eurovision fans celebrating the people who make Eurovision what it is.

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And the Grand Final will be, perhaps unsurprisingly, let's celebrate a new winner.

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Now, I can't speak for other nations, but here in the UK we like to complain about how hard done by we are at Eurovision, that nobody likes us, that we're the eternal pariahs of the competition, that we could send Adele and Ed Sheeran with the ghost of John Lennon on the piano and we still wouldn't win.

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And quite rightly so.

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I haven't read all of the rules of Eurovision, but I'm fairly certain it's implicit that everyone performing on stage has to actually be alive.

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But are we really uniquely bad at Eurovision?

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I don't think the stats back that up.

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had a bad run of things since:

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Our last win, of course, with Katrina and the Waves and Love Shine A Light.

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But if you look at how long some countries have been waiting since the last time they topped the scoreboard at Eurovision, we're actually sitting pretty.

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So in this week's episode, we're going to take a look at the top five countries who've been waiting the longest for their next Eurovision win.

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A few ground rules.

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First of all, this is about countries who have won Eurovision at least once before.

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a couple of podcasts back in:

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So this time we're looking at the countries who have at least one win under their belts already.

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So sorry, Malta and Iceland, it's not your time right now.

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Second of all, this list is only for countries that still exist and are active participants in Eurovision.

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ing not won the contest since:

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, who last won the contest in:

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So they're unlikely to win Eurovision again without, frankly, major geopolitical shake up.

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Honourable mention before we get going, to those who just missed the cut off.

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Azerbaijan have currently got a 12 year drought.

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Serbia have 14, Greece are on 19, Latvia have 22.

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And narrowly missing the top five are Estonia, with a 23 year wait for another win.

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those droughts as far as the:

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With that out of the way, let's move on to the top five countries who've endured the longest waits for their next win.

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And at number five, it's the United Kingdom.

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As much as our pundits wouldn't like to admit it, we're not actually the country who's been kept waiting the longest for a win.

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Not only are there four countries ahead of us in the queue, albeit one with a bit of a technicality, but we will get to that in due course.

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But there are actually two countries on this list whose most recent win is so far in the past that the UK has actually lifted the trophy twice since then.

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But of course it's not just about wins, it's about your overall track record, which is what we'll also be looking at in this episode.

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And I don't think you need me to tell you that this does make for fairly uninspiring reading as far as the UK is concerned.

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finishes since:

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years, we have spent the post:

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my brought Sam Ryder to us in:

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But ever since he proved that Europe really will vote for us if we give them a good reason to, there has been a renewed interest in the UK actually doing well at Eurovision again.

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We have admittedly not really pulled it off since then, but in both cases it wasn't for a lack of actively trying.

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We had some good solid ideas, but the execution was a little bit off.

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thing I've been saying since:

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It will be interesting to see how things go for Remember Monday this year.

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I still have my reservations about the song itself, but they're great live performers who do seem to have been getting a warm reception on the pre contest party circuit.

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I don't think this song is anyone's idea of a winner, but if Sam Ryder and Lucy Jones are anything to go by, we do better when our main focus is on sending a skilled singer who won't crack mentally or vocally under pressure.

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So there's still a chance for us to have a good result this year.

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Watch this space.

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In fourth place we have Belgium they are unique on this list in only having won the competition once, so they do perhaps have slightly more to prove than anyone else.

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Their only Victory came in:

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en run of non qualifiers from:

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th place finishes in:

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But then the wheels came off last year with Musty's before the Party's over, an early favourite which lost momentum once people caught sight of the rehearsals and a combination of shaky vocals and off putting staging left it missing out on a place in the vinyl.

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I think Belgium are definitely hungry for another win and this year's entry Strobe Lights by Red Sebastian is currently hovering around seventh place with the bookies, which shows they've not lost their touch from their hotspot around a decade ago.

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The other thing worth noting about Belgium is that it is unusual in Eurovision terms in that its two major broadcasters, the Flemish speaking VRT and francophone RTBF are both full members of the EBU and take it in turns organising the national submission to the contest, which does make it slightly harder to build momentum and may be part of the reason for Belgium's hit and misfortunes.

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But I definitely think they've got another win in the tank somewhere in third place.

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And this I admit is where things may get a little bit controversial.

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g who last won the contest in:

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Years.

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But as I said at the top, to be eligible for inclusion on this list you need to currently be an active participant at Eurovision, and they are.

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So Luxembourg stays on the list at number three, even if it comes with an asterisk.

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Besides, I do think there is a case to be made here for their inclusion on the grounds that their perception that another win was out of reach is what led them to step away from the contest in the first place.

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So let's put it into context.

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Luxembourg's win in:

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And that's not bad considering the size of Luxembourg compared to a lot of the other countries in the contest.

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But in the years after that fifth victory, they began to really struggle to make an impact in the contest.

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They finished third in:

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relegated from the contest in:

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est, and you could argue that:

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This happened in the wider context of their heavily hyped return to the contest and a heightened level of interest that's unlikely to apply going forward.

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So it does feel pretty coded in a way to suggest that Luxembourg want to remind everyone of the time when they dominated at Eurovision and that they'd like to be up there again.

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Whether they have the heft and the infrastructure to pull that off in the long term remains to be seen, but I don't doubt that the will is there.

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At number two on the Countdown, we move to Luxembourg's neighbour to the south, France.

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now that Luxembourg's win in:

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rance's fifth win happened in:

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France's fortunes at Eurovision are an interesting thing to track because their approach is always quite individualistic, even after the language rules were relaxed.

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They've occasionally included the odd verse in English here and there, but their songs are always primarily in French.

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Similarly, they don't seem particularly interested in chasing trends.

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They will send what they want to send and if it flops, they'll simply shrug in a Gallic sort of way and carry on.

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As a result, their participation at the contest can occasionally seem a bit more of a bureaucratic box ticking exercise than something that anyone is actively, passionately interested in.

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But I do think that could be about to change.

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s entirely since their win in:

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For a start, they finished third in three out of the four subsequent contests.

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They also finished second in:

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And they followed that up in:

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This meant that the tie break procedure to determine the winner was implemented for the first and to date only time at Eurovision, where the votes were counted back to see who had the most number of maximum 12 points points.

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Both countries had in fact received a top score from four different countries, so the count continued to see who had received the most tens, which turned out to be Carola, meaning Sweden won and France had to settle for second place.

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e four way tie for the win in:

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n detail two weeks ago, after:

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d hit quite a bad run between:

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But there we go.

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o be suddenly re energised in:

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The aftermath of that was a solid run of mid table finishes as France tried to figure out exactly what their presence in the modern contest should look like before they struck gold.

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Well, silver in:

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Much like the UK, they followed a huge resurgence with a couple more disappointing attempts.

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But unlike the uk so far they managed to prove it wasn't a fluke when Slimane finished fourth last year with Mon Amour.

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And this year they're sending a huge domestic star, Luann, with Maman, another song that's tipped to do very well and possibly even win.

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So could we see another France win at Eurovision in the near future?

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While I don't think France has yet reached the same level of hunger for a victory among its general population as some other countries might have, it's clear the delegation means business at this point.

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And given their recent run of success at Junior Eurovision, I certainly wouldn't bet against them crossing the line in the main contest sooner rather than later.

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It will be really interesting to see how well Luann does this year.

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If she does as well as expected, I think it will definitely galvanise France to throw themselves behind a full attempt at a win sooner rather than later.

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That leaves us with our number one, Spain.

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Eurovision Song Contest since:

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solo win was the year before:

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Those are Spain's only wins at Eurovision to date, meaning that they have been waiting more than half a century to win the contest again.

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nmigo or Come Back With Me in:

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unned with Chanel's Slo Mo in:

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is that I personally think if:

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Yes, the UK finished second that year, but Spain were about 50 points behind us in the jury and about 45 points ahead of us in the televote.

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And I think if Ukraine were removed from that equation, Spain's televote share would have been massively increased, probably enough to overtake us overall.

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I've got no proof for this, only vibes, but I'm just putting that out there.

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I do think there's possibly less chance for optimism about another Spain win in the near future.

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For now, at least since the turn of the century, they finish in the top 10 seven times, but most of those are from a while ago.

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th place finish in:

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So if they don't finish 10th or better this year, that's likely to drop even further.

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This year's entry, Esser Diva, or this diva by melody, is currently 27th, with the bookies sandwiched in between Azerbaijan and Denmark in terms of overall chance to win.

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And given that Azerbaijan and Denmark are currently predicted to not even qualify for the final, that's not really an encouraging sign.

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I don't doubt that Spain would love to win Eurovision again.

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Their enthusiasm at getting to host junior Eurovision last year is evidence of that, but I'm not sure if the route to another win for them looks particularly clear at the moment.

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The standard of entries at this year's Benidormfest, Spain's national final, was generally considered to be fairly subpar this time round, and if the pipeline of exciting artists isn't there in the first place, it's quite hard to see how Spain becomes competitive at Eurovision again.

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help, but they tried that in:

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So as much as I hate to end on a pessimistic note, I do think Spain needs a rethink from the ground up if they're to end their victory drought.

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But who knows what lies around the corner.

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Let's wait and see.

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That's all from me this week.

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Thanks as always for listening.

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I appreciate it very much and I hope you enjoyed this week's episode.

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